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steve    Posted 10-18-2020 at 11:49:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Since working on the farm 60 years ago, I've always wanted an 8n. I can afford a nicely restored tractor now. What would the value difference be between an 8n Funk (frame rail) versus a nonmodified 8n in similar condition? Also, could I count on the Funk being as usable and reliable as the standard 8n? Thanks

    duey    Posted 10-23-2020 at 19:28:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It is also well to remember that some fellows can WRECK A CROWBAR!!!!

    KCM    Posted 10-20-2020 at 21:28:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not feelin' the love here when it comes to Funk Aircraft conversions. The conversions came out at a time when Ford wasn't offering any more power and farmers were wanting it. When used properly the conversions fit the bill. They provided more power to the PTO for equipment that required it and could pull a 3-bottom plow, or a 2-bottom at faster speeds. It is true the extra power could cause breakdowns if used hard, with the rear axles and differential being the weak points. The rest of the tractor held up fine. Funk sold a lot of kits that were used for serious work on the farm until Ford decided to come out with more powerful tractors. I would say though that the V8 was not really practical since more power over the 6 was not needed and it burned more fuel, probably why you rarely see a Funk V8 tractor. But they do look cool. But I personally prefer the looks of the hood profile of the 6 kit over the V8.

    As to which one you should buy, it really depends on what you like and if you want something a little more unique. The Funks are a little bigger and heavier with a longer wheelbase, so are a little less agile then the stock 8N, but still a usable tractor. They steer a little bit harder than a stock 8N, but the narrow 19" wheels make it much easier. They will use a little more fuel, but for the little amount you will probably use it that won't be an issue. And as far as breakdowns, unless you plan on pulling it hard which most people don't anymore, nothing will break. If a tractor is maintained properly, it will be reliable whether a stock 8N or Funk. Both tractors are dirt simple. And be aware that when ordering parts the engine is from a Ford truck, and that the radiator and part of the starter are Funk specific. I would also make sure the Funk tractor still has a governor since to effectively use the tractor it needs one. As for price, they are all over the board but in general I would say a Funk is about the same price or slightly more than a stock 8N. Frame rail versions are more plentiful but some people like the cast iron pan versions as they look cleaner and mimic the design of the stock 8N. But like everything, condition makes a difference on price Whatever you buy, check it over thoroughly and make sure what works and doesn't to look for any repairs that may be needed after you buy.

    Another option: buy one of each then you won't have to choose.

    steve    Posted 10-26-2020 at 21:14:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Great response--much appreciated.

    Kimberly    Posted 10-19-2020 at 22:49:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I know nothing about this Funk. Could you please educated me?

    steve    Posted 10-20-2020 at 10:25:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • you should google it. Interesting story how the 8n was converted to 6 or even 8 cylinders

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 10-20-2020 at 07:41:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Conversions of 8N's using Ford 6 cyl. or V-8 engines. Google Funk conversions and you will get all kinds of information. Including a reference to an aircraft engine.

    Dean    Posted 10-19-2020 at 08:44:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Funk conversions are novelties poorly suited to most tasks performed by decent original 8Ns.

    They have novelty value to some collectors but little practical value on the farm.

    If you must have one, the 6 cylinder Funk is more practical than is the V8.

    Dean

    steve    Posted 10-19-2020 at 17:48:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks, Dean. I would be interested to have others weigh in on this subject.

    Ultradog MN    Posted 10-20-2020 at 06:33:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I agree with Dean - they were a novelty and not a serious tractor.
    Putting a 6 banger in place of a 4 isn't a great recipe.
    You have a tractor with an alligator mouth and a mocking bird a$$.
    IF the transmission and rear end could sustain that much horsepower you are still left with not enough tire to put it to the ground. Add weights and or bigger tires and you just break what's in front of them sooner. If you just used it for pto work the question becomes, how much HP will that small clutch handle?
    And then of course, you still have a tractor with non live hydraulics, no live pto, or power steering, or differential lock, or remote hydraulics, only 4 forward gears and an awfully fast reverse.
    A Funk might be fun but it's really not a serious work machine.
    All that said, I think the ones with the original Funk cast iron pan would be most collectible/valuable as there are several kits you can buy to drop a bigger engine into an N that use the add-on frame.
    I considered dropping a little diesel from a Thermo King refer into an N (got it for free) but thought better of it and stuck the $ into a lightly burned 3600 instead.
    Unlike selling a cobbled up N I actually made a couple grand when I sold the 3600.

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